Sunday, July 20, 2014

Turkey's Gul: Time for a deal on Cyprus

http://www.turkeyagenda.com/turkey-s-gul-time-for-a-deal-on-cyprus-924.html
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...sadly, Mr. Gul does not get "it", if the "Turkish peace mission to aid Turkish Cypriots" was done at the expense of Greek Cypriots, because some of "them" were "Greek", rather than Greek, like the kettle which calls the pot black, it does not reflect well on Turkey. Cyprus and Cypriots exist. What with its own problems with "minorities", and with their condemnations of other States essentially not unlike their own, Turkey is not so credible if all it puts on the table are more blame and demands.

...if Mr. Gul expects "Greeks" to tear up Cyprus, he should expect "Turks" to do the same for the Kurds, Armenians, Christians, and others, who are Turkish but not Turkic, in Turkey. If Mr. Gul believes in the Bicommunal (because it is the compromise, to the Problem, that Turkey demanded and that has been accepted), (and now Bizonal), proposal for Cyprus, where there is a State, Freedom, and Individual Rights, above all, I ask where is the Greek Constituency that exists within it, an equal to other Cypriot Constituencies, that at another level of Government as Persons, gives a Turkish Constituency its relevance; where there is this equality as such, the Liberty to sustain themselves within a territorial jurisdiction as a majority which demonstrates its Goodwill to the minorities living among them. I ask why not a Turkic Constituency, (one among the few, like in Cyprus, (or Iraq)), if in Turkey one Flag would fly higher, (where there are many flags) even if as Persons distinct identities are sustained, as Individuals they would remain united toward defending Universal Principals.

Saturday, July 19, 2014

We must not allow a permanent division in Cyprus

http://www.parikiaki.com/2014/07/we-must-not-allow-a-permanent-division-in-cyprus/
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my dearest Mr. President,I ask of Mr. Eroglu, even though he represents the Turkish Constituency, to stand in front of the Cypriot Flag. I expect of you to stand in front of the Cypriot Flag, too, and I am offended when Nationalism demands from you to stand under Greek Flags waving higher…

…I ask, if we are Cypriots living in a Unitary State, and being Bicommunal, able to represent Citizens not only as Individuals, but at another (state) level of government, as Persons, then, where is the Greek Constituency, so that Greeks can express themselves as Greeks, an equal (the same Liberty), in that way, to other Cypriot Constituencies, since it is the Republic (and Freedom) which needs no equal?

most respectfully,

RW

- See more at: http://www.parikiaki.com/2014/07/we-must-not-allow-a-permanent-division-in-cyprus/#sthash.ZjU4520s.dpuf

Thursday, July 17, 2014

Drought in Turkey: A social or a physical phenomenon?

http://www.suhakki.org/en/index.php/2014/07/drought-in-turkey-a-social-or-a-physical-phenomenon/#comment-45699

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…an interesting article, and site.
…I wonder, what with the pipeline being built to Cyprus, whether, management has been once again ignored, for the political gains of what can essentially be described as plunder (just happy, the water is there). I wonder if the consequence of damming a river in Turkey (which she shares), for this “Project of the Century”, will lead to further conflicts with neighbors.
In Cyprus one can see quite a different behavior between the two administrations on the island, sadly, it does not reflect well on Turkish policy over the years, what with the very different results we can see, there.

Friday, July 04, 2014

Our View: Making it up as they go along

http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/07/04/our-view-making-it-up-as-they-go-along/

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...I want to apologise, as a Cypriot, (and as a Citizen of the World) for such ignorant behaviour.
My hope is that the President will not allow this to continue, that he will send a strong message as the representative of all Cypriots, this is not the toughness one expects from such a Ministry in times as tough as these, this is going too far. You do not have to be "Greek" to be Cypriot, or even "Greek Cypriot" for that matter, "Turkish Cypriots" are not everyone else so to speak, Muslim or not.

...(Even if Cyprus supports Hellenism) As Citizens we stand together to defend the Universal Principals on which our Individual Rights are based. Cyprus, the Republic of Cyprus, has one Flag, not two three or four. As things are based right now, if anything, anyone who is not, Turkish Cypriot living in the illegally occupied territory north of the Green Line, are the so called “Greek Cypriots”, even Turkish Cypriots who declare their primary residency within the Republic, are Greek Cypriots; just take a look at the electoral roles (for the last (EU) elections), and how Citizens are are/were treated.

...and 64 years ago, why was it a mistake for these people to have been classed “Greek Cypriot”, what is it that can be identified as an improvement to their Liberty as Citizens, by the label, “Turkish Cypriot”, now; is it Mdme. Shakalli, or the Minister, who should offer their resignation?

Sunday, June 22, 2014

Re: Left Cyprus 50 years ago!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus42152-120.html#p790685

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...as usual, you distort facts, vp.

in any case the EU elections are hardly a good example of "Greeks" out to suppress the rights of "Turks", except for the incompetent short-sightedness of a Bureaucracy that does not keep its registers up to date, and in affect was caught short with this unfortunate result. that it did not take any initiatives itself, toward the State, to correct this flaw, indicates a corruption over Principal, but to say that the action was organised willfully and with malice, against "you", is a lie. it was just laziness. you should know that because your regime is even worse.

your assumption on the youth and their culture, doubtless is as much a fabrication of your own desire, as it is having some truth, you cannot have a "Community" without some kind of ELAM boy hopping about on his own testosterone, you cannot Judge your youth so easily either. of course you work hard to stand up for the political existence of your "people", who ever they are though, if you are the representative of them, they are just as short-sighted. you may be Turcophone, you may be Grecophone, and you may seek to secure these distinct identities. but you must care very little, for Cyprus, if you are only willing to defend "yourself". securing this Liberty, you must be willing to defend each other's Liberty, or you must care very little for Freedom itself. without one Cyprus, I am measured as one displaced, who you would prefer would care no more. just the same, "you" have and remain nothing (and I don't have to be living on the island to tell you that), unless this fact is answered.

...the Occupation Movement comes to mind; speaking of Principal, speaking of Youth.

Friday, June 06, 2014

Turkey’s intra-Islamic witch hunt

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/06/turkey-gulen-erdogan-police-judiciary-parallel-state.html?utm_source=Al-Monitor+Newsletter+%5BEnglish%5D&utm_campaign=e7043d4803-June_6_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_28264b27a0-e7043d4803-93108473

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...indeed, what can be learned is that there is one God; and for the pious, if they have Grace, to have this Humility. What can be learned, from the Great War, and the creation of the State we know as Turkey by Kemal, is that we cannot fight each other, Lest we Forget, there are bigger enemies where our Hatred can be directed to an effect we share, like against Disease, and Ignorance, or Hunger, and the affects of Disaster...

...Statesmen, great Statesmen, respect themselves as Individuals, they defend Freedom, and its betterment, even if as Persons, the Liberty they may sustain is an identity of their own, there are Principals which are Universal, they represent and fight for. A "good" Turk, like a "good" Muslim, is a loving person, with a willingness to defend the others who like them, act, accordingly.

...as Mr. Erdogan has said himself, to integrate should not mean assimilation.

Friday, May 23, 2014

Cyprus urged to unlock its potential

http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/05/23/cyprus-urged-to-unlock-its-potential/

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Dear Mr. Biden,

Thank-You for your visit.

...I have learned that you are a very thoughtful man, my hope is that you have found with your visit, a reason to return. Cyprus is a crossroad, and as you say, its potential is breathtaking. Maritime, Logistic, Finance, and Communication leader, with a solid Rule of Law, Cyprus, Free, is at its advent.
Cypriots have gained a great deal of confidence from your visit, that they at least have not been forgotten, that they will not see this island torn in two, "Turkish", and "not Turkish".
...so too the families of the missing, who endure in this misery; I thank-you for that, as well.

Thursday, May 01, 2014

‘Significant distance between the two sides’

http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/05/01/significant-distance-between-the-two-sides/

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...i ask as well, why does this man have a "Greek" flag behind him? i would only think that this is appropriate, speaking in Greece. and if it is a Constituency the flag represents (even if Greeks represent the overwhelming majority of the population), the others, Maronite, Armenians, Latins, and Turks (even the British), represent Constituencies, too.
What started so well, with an Inaugural that placed Cypriot interests above the rest, to fly the Cypriot Flag higher, it has come to this (again). I suggest the bigger challenge remains, for Leaders to take, as Statesman, but, who has the courage to state what are facts, Bicommunal, like Bizonal, define us, not as "Greeks" and "Turks", we are Human Beings as well (Lest we Forget), but as Individuals, and as Persons.
...i am afraid that the way this debate is framed, Cypriots will remain impotent toward defending each other as Cypriots, having to defend "Greekness", and "Turkishness" instead. (our duty is to Mankind, for the gift of having self-determination, and neither "motherland" in their mythic proportions, has demonstrated better skill, it seems, at that.)
...i am hoping with all the "positive spin" from the "otherside" that they have ideas that will be described as, new thinking; they too, cannot continue to wait for others to change themselves. It is obvious that we are better together than apart. It would be nice to see Mr. Eroglu demand an equal to himself, not the Republic, to negotiate with, as a Constituency, standing in front of two flags, Cypriot and that of the Constituency he represents, insisting only Cypriot Flags should fly where the Federal Government is concerned. insisting, that as equals, the Constituencies would likely be able to solve the problems amongst themselves, if there was a Greek Constituency, as a Cypriot problem which is internal, since Sovereignty, and the Rights of Individuals are secured, by the Republic (even if it is in need of reform). "they", as Persons within a Republic exercise Liberty, and, as Citizens, Individuals, and as Human beings, not only as these electorates, as voters representing Universal Principals, equal, without distinction or discrimination, elect a Federal Government that defends this Freedom.
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That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status.
...count them, there are three (at least) governing bodies in this statement.
...why not, if there is a Turkish Constituency, and a Republic, a Greek Constituency, (and others)?

Wednesday, April 30, 2014

Re: Over 20 Million Cross Cease-fire Visits

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus42021-70.html#p786568

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"the UN, EU, USA, UK, Turkey, Greece - basically everyone", are for a solution. given the plan (i assume you to mean the Annan Plan) was unread at the time of the referendum, at least that version of it, i think that is reason enough to consider a "no" vote credible, coming from voters who have the rest of their lives to live with it. what is off the table, as Mr. Kofi put it, in my mind, is fifty years of failed Foreign Policy by Turkey to realise some satisfaction from the Lease to Britain gone bad. what is left, is a solution where Turkish Cypriots are recognised as such because the vast majority of the population is willing to surrender this power (somehow).

...as a Constituency (rather than an entity demanding equality to the State) demanding Cypriot Constituencies i could support the existence of a Greek Constituency as well (Bizonally, no less), however Cyprus, the State should have no equal, and it should remain a superior to any other governance we may have within it, Sovereign having a Federal Government to represent the will of its Citizens as a body of people, United as Individuals, toward defending the Universal Principals they seek to better.

...again i ask, and why not a Greek Constituency?

Saturday, March 22, 2014

Re: How can TC's and GC's coexist together?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus41840-40.html#p783240

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GreekIslandGirl wrote:We already have one Cypriot state. The Cypriot State!

- You need an option for the removal of the Turkish Occupiers. That's the only change needed.


...and what is it, that you can do, as a Greek, let alone a Cypriot, so that the Turkish Occupiers change their intention, and leave?

It is true what you say, there is a Cypriot state; and, there is a Cypriot State. as Constituencies, there exist many, not just Turks, and non-Turks; as Persons they have equal needs, and in need it is equal to "you". i say, this Liberty, Greeks can give, more because, they are on this island an overwhelming majority, but as Greeks they can demonstrate a Bicommunal nature, that a Greek Flag can stand an equal to a Turkish Flag, and in Cyprus, a Cypriot Flag flies higher. Freedom, where all Individuals are equal, depends on the notion that beyond any Nation, there is a service to all Humanity, that in enmity there is goodness in our hatred, against real enemies united (Hunger, Disease, Disaster, Ignorance), not each other (Lest we Forget); in my mind, this is the Cypriot way. 

...what is needed,(since the 'Remedy' is found in Turkey's dysfunction (let us assume that "Cyprus" is a template, (again))), to end the Problem, is a thought put into action as great as Ataturk's dream: a State where as Nations, Nations serve. and in Turkey, by emulation, for there to be a Turkish Constituency, in Cyprus so too a Greek Constituency; this is Modern thinking: no? 

(as a Greek, my guess is that you would be interested; with ideas, in changing the world.)

Friday, January 10, 2014

CYPRUS TO BE AGENDA IN ANKARA

http://cyprusscene.com/2014/01/08/34160/comment-page-1/#comment-87489

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...what is needed is a clear definition of the words, Individual, and Person. One talks of community rights, as though our Individual Rights need no defense, or that as a Nation, Freedom is second to the Liberty it provides.

To satisfy the desire for a Turkish Constituency in Cyprus, what is missing is other Constituencies. For if there was a Greek Constituency, they would be equals, and as Persons free to support an Agenda where they can sustain this distinct identity with the self-representation that effects their daily lives. The Republic of Cyprus would do well if this other level of Government existed, and as Citizens it would be possible to fly many flags, (as a bicommunal country) because it is the Cypriot Flag that would fly higher.

Wednesday, January 08, 2014

Liberman’s land swap proposal shakes up peace talks

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/01/liberman-land-swap-plan-pragmatic-logical-wadi-ara.html?utm_source=Al-Monitor+Newsletter+%5BEnglish%5D&utm_campaign=90b5e27e86-January_8_20141_8_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_28264b27a0-90b5e27e86-93108473

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...better if like Cyprus, Mr. Liberman may consider the value of a Bicommunal State, such as Canada. It would involve a Greater Israel, and as well there would be its Constituencies, who represent National Assemblies, and by a Territorial Jurisdiction for which they have their Charter from a Federal Government, zones where which an Agenda of Persons may serve their distinct identity first, but able are they to serve minorities amongst them by demonstrating the Goodwill they could expect reciprocally.

Mr. Liberman is wrong if he believes that cutting Cyprus in two is a good idea, what did Solomon do?

Friday, November 29, 2013

Turkish MP supports ‘peace pipeline’

http://www.jpost.com/Enviro-Tech/Turkish-MP-supports-peace-pipeline-333451

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...oh to dream.

...managed resources regionally (and the environmental consequences), a pipeline through Cyprus of gaz, why not water to the Middle East (from Turkey)?

...yet if i was a European, or even a Middle Eastern, I would not put all my eggs in Turkey's basket, as friends, the Policy of this Government, is zero.

Cypriots are not "Turks", or "not Turks" (read: "Greeks"), just like the Alevi, Kurds, and Turks in Turkey, they are Cypriot. In my mind, if Turkey was a Bicommunal Bizonal Federation, such dreams could come true.

Friday, November 15, 2013

Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC"

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus39847-700.html#p775081

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...for now the 'pipedream' has been reduced to a political tool without any indication that there is a larger goal. it has less to do with water as a resource, and more to do with being a quick fix that wins votes. "you" use it as a weapon against a Cyprus which should be Free, so that a subjugation lost to the British can be regained; at its extraordinary cost, it is hard to imagine that it is to quench the thirst of those "Turkish", on the island.

...you don't get it vp, it is about management, and when this dream was just a dream, over twenty years ago, it was to serve a wider purpose, this is what's lacking, Turkey at present has tarnished herself, taking her eye off the ball, the Globe and our affairs as Humans, and in truth, Turkey as a leader in the World, is failing. pipelines may be built, so too from (and to) Lebanon (e.g.). the need for a grid, a regional administration will evolve, like it has with other resources; it will likely not be formed from "Turkish" thinking, Turkey, at this rate, will likely be the last to join.


Saturday, November 09, 2013

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It is important for Cypriots to raise their voices as Cypriots, because without them, the debate will continue to revolve around those among us who place "Turkishness" or "Greekness" above the love Cypriots have for their island. As Persons we can celebrate our distinctiveness, and the richness of each's Heritence, but as Individuals only a Republic can defend the Universal Principals that are our Rights as Human beings.

...the Problem did not start in 1974, it is the symptoms we experienced in 1963, the Intolerance which all Cypriots suffer only continued under the Illegal Occupation of the Turkish Army, and the continued denial that Turkish Foreign Poilcy of the last Century has failed (read: Annan Plan). I ask, if a Bicommunal system of Government is the quest, and if a Republic exists (in need of Constitutional Reform, of course), and a Turkish Constitiency exists, why not a Greek Constituency, as well as others? (Is it because Turkey cannot reform itself to be Bicommunal, that the “Turks” deny their own subjugation of the Kurds, (Armenians), Greeks, Alevi, who are Turkish, but not Turk?). (is it because the Greek elite on the island, by sheer numbers, and by Law, cannot be compelled to divide it?)

Why not a distinction between our Rights as Individuals, as Sovereign, as Citizens, as Equals, by having a State to represent our will as the Stewards of this island (and EEZ), as Cypriots, having a Government where there is no discrimination, where every vote is the same. and where Cyprus comes first.

...and if there exists a Greek Constituency in such a State, why not an equal to the other Cypriot Constituencies, where Cypriots, in their daily lives can be served by National Assemblies (and their Municipal Authorities), in a manner where as Persons, as an electorate, they address their needs as an Identity, as a majority, serving themselves, demonstrating their Goodwill, because they are also able in recognising and providing for the minorities among them, their needs as well.

In my Cyprus, Bizonal does not mean tearing the island in two, even if the Green Line remains little unchanged. If Sovereignty was off the table because as well as a Republic there existed a Greek Constituency, it would be possible to repopulate the island and to think futuristicly. There could exist Constitiuencies, Maronite, Armenian, Latin, English, and in the next two hundred years others, where Language and numbers warrant. I imagine that the Constituencies themselves could settle the Territorial Jurisdictions of their Governance (with a Greek Constituency), and unanimously present their demands as Corporations to their Federal Government for Charter. (and i imagine it satisfies Turkey's insistence on identifying people as "Turkish" and "not Turkish" ("Greek").)

...If (dare I say the dirty word), enclaves were introduced into the Cypriot political geography, it would be possible for Justice to be seen, at least for some of the displaced, both from '63, and '74, Greek, and Turkish, a return as they left, as Communities. And if enclaves spotted the entire island as it is divided today, it ends the significance of the 'border', it is just another frontier in a Country with many. They (enclaves) obliges the Greek and Turkish Constituencies to serve an electorate island-wide not just as "majorities", and they oblige them to serve a population that is Free in Movement, Association, and Expression, as Cypriots, these Rights are Supreme; it would not be hard to imagine, by choice, Greeks and Turks, living as minorities within this range of choices.

http://cyprus-mail.com/2013/10/27/is-the-cyprus-problem-40-or-50-years-old/

Monday, November 04, 2013

Memories of two Cyprus missions remain vivid for Port McNicoll man

http://www.simcoe.com/news-story/4190222-peacekeeper-enormously-proud-of-service/

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..I would like to remind Canadians that the Cyprus Problem remains unsolved. Now as patience seems to be growing thin, it is important to remember that this issue is not about the enmity of "Greeks" and "Turks", it is about Intolerance. If the island remains divided, there will never be Peace, it will not be the end of a People who have survived thousands of years of subjugation, they will continue to struggle unfreed, but the Heritence (Lest we Forget) it represents to Mankind will be lost, from a demonstrated impotence toward "Turkishness", and not "Turkishness" ("Greek"). Indeed, not one UN soldier has been killed by the side of the island represented by "Greeks"; something to think about.

Sunday, November 03, 2013

Re: The only Option for the Turkish Cypriots!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus41335-70.html#p774056

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Viewpoint wrote:We do not need to or nor will we go away where other than our island we are here to stay, so deal with it. Do you accept a BBF with political equality of the 2 states at the federal level?


...its like Cyprus is only a speck of property with no people on it. Individual Rights seem to have no importance to you vp. you talk of two sterile units that are mono-clonal, that is either "Turkish", or not "Turkish", as though Cypriots do not exist, and that Cyprus is of no importance except as an extension of Turkish Foreign Policy. "we", as you describe are Persons, nothing else, but we are Human beings, and it is in this sense, i am compelled to respond, that in effect you deny equality. we are no longer chattel, there is Freedom, there is Equality as Individuals, Universal Principals which we, whether Greek or Turk or Cypriot, defend against the "we" you defend no better than a "Greek", (Lest we Forget) as Ignorant, because the thinking(read: intent) has more to do with Greed, rather than Liberty. you may put your "Turkishness" first, that does not make it right, and whether Cypriot by birth, lineage, or coincidence, in essence you are not Cypriot, you are an accessory to Crime. 


the only option for Turkish Cypriots, is the same option for Greek Cypriots, and that is to love each other, as Cypriots to say, i love Cyprus, first.

Tuesday, October 01, 2013

Our View: We created a state designed to serve the ruling elite


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...and what is Cyprus but a template for elites further afield.
We may consider ourselves lucky, because having survived the attention of interlocutors for thousands of years in isolation, the Cypriot now has the means to express themselves as a Sovereign People who are no different and an equal within a larger family of man. Perhaps this crisis will make it clear to us, the value of our Heritance, to be Cypriots, rather than "Greeks", or "Turks".
Freedom has a heavy price, and part of that is overcoming the fears we have within ourselves. Have we learned the lessons of the First World War (as Human Beings) with so much energy placed on the adversarial nature of our Politics? Have we discovered that this hatred can serve the fight against bigger enemies (like Disease, and Hunger)? What of the elites, indeed, who do they represent?

Friday, September 06, 2013

Re: Cypriots are the minority...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus41071.html#p768926

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...clear your mind for a moment Dr. if your intentions are the Freedom of Cyprus, and the Liberty of Cypriots, new thinking is needed.

i suggest the debate has been framed wrongly, a new perspective on the Problem is in order. because it suited the interlocutors, we are framed as "Turks" or not "Turks" ("Greeks"), and this has led to the marginalisation of Individual thinking. Those who are Cypriot, first, in this context are a minority, and as a minority like in any democracy, hold the balance of power. without a Cypriot movement, things stay the same, or worse return to the state of war, because this "Peace" is unnatural. 

so, we know that a Republic exists, and we know that the overwhelming population is Greek, we know that other Nations form a part of the Cypriot identity, and we know that a Turkish Constituency seeks an equal as Constituencies, i suggest that the "Greek" state we have can identify to itself without needing the State to be its exclusive representative as people. i suggest that a movement of Cypriots can become a significant political force, if there existed for Greek Cypriots a means for their self-representation and sustenance, as Persons. it allows for a debate as Stewards, as Citizens, as Individuals, rather than a People of a Nation, because the Nation has a voice. 

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That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status.


count them: three (at least) governing bodies.

...thus for Cyprus, i ask, "where is the Greek Constituency?"

Thursday, August 29, 2013

The Syrian dilemma and the ‘who benefits?” tenet

mail.com/2013/08/27/the-syrian-dilemma-and-the-who-benefits-tenet/

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Humanity, Lest we Forget, was taught a lesson, not long ago in 1914.
...have we learned it? There are no enemies but ourselves when it comes to Ignorance. Real enemies exist, and Hatred is a beautiful thing when it is applied against them: like Hunger, and Disease.
False Flag or not, Mankind should not be picking sides, as the adversaries have been framed, a more insidious foe festers (still).

Monday, August 26, 2013

Re: Deal Over Occupied Famagusta...???

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus40649-520.html#p767973

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indeed, like the formation of the IPO, blame was accepted. it is the same, Turkey can correct her own wrongs, it has nothing to do with the negotiations, or the Cyprus Problem, it is the recognition of fact from which an intention can be established, Cyprus a whole, Cypriots respected for what they are, not just "Turks", and "others", a People as proud.

you may demonstrate with all the examples you want, true, half-true, and out and out fabrications or lies, to make your point, vp, that your hatred has a reason to grow (and that this enmity will last forever). but, we are Humans, and as Cypriots, as a majority (80%) which is Greek, the compromise was made, it is not up to you ("you") to ask for more than that (a BBF). it is up to you to act accordingly; i ask, are you Cypriot? would you be glad to live as in any country, an Individual, whether the part of a majority or minority, equal. and as well, being a Person having a means to self-representation that equals other Persons? as a Citizen of the World (because you were not born in Cyprus, although here you want to stay), can you not see that your responsibility is toward the rest of Mankind (before your own distinctive preferences)? you vp, seek recognition of a State, so that there is a Greek State and a Turkish State, essentially to leave things the way they are. 

...what is wrong with one Republic, where if we are no different to Greece and Turkey, it is because Universal Principals are demonstrated by these States. and i suggest to you that we can as Cypriots choose to live in any one of many states as Cypriot Constituencies (bicommunally), this to you, it would seem to me, should be far more important than an airport, outside of the Republic's control impossible to "give".

...and anyway, you are doing just fine, if i am to believe what you say, (you need nothing from the Republic (if i am correct in my understanding of what you say)), it is a fine way to show goodwill, to just give back what you are not using (and that does not belong to "you").

Wednesday, August 14, 2013

Maybe it’s time for a real partition to be negotiated


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...if there is a Republic, and a Turkish Constituency, where is the Greek Constituency?

"That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status."

...count them, three governing bodies.

With a Greek Constituency (and others, i.e. Maronite, Armenian, Latin) it is possible to have equality amongst people as Persons, (and dare i say it, with Cypriot Constituencies, the Cypriot People could elect to create an English Constituency, and in the future others if and when it is warranted).

With a Greek Constituency, regardless of demographics, Greek is sustained and promoted.

With a Greek Constituency, the State, and the Government which represents all Citizens without distinction or discrimination, is Free of this bias, (defending Greekness because the overwhelming majority of the island's population is Greek), more credible, it will be better able to defend our Individual Rights as members of the larger family, of Man.

Bicommunal does not mean tearing the island in two, but, it requires from all of us a willingness to overcome the fears we have within ourselves, to change our thinking, to demonstrate that Cypriots have an intent far more complex than being "Greeks" and "Turks" in a proxy war.

Just like the word Bicommunal, the word Bizonal is only complete if there are (more than) "two" of something which remains a whole. In my Cyprus, enclaves are not a dirty word, and I believe that Justice can be seen if they exist. What of the displaced, the murdered, and the missing, who were/are they that they suffered this fate, in '63, and in '74? What of their return if not for all of them, some of them as they were forced to leave, as Communities? I see enclaves pocketing the whole island, obliging the Greek and Turkish Constituencies to serve an electorate that is island-wide (and that is multi-cultural). I see enclaves as a key to securing: Free Association, Free Expression, Free Movement, because as Cypriots we would have these Rights. And, even if the "Green-Line" remains, it will no longer be a "border", but another frontier.

...dividing the island (as in separation) will not bring Peace, it is this hatred and endless cycle of revenge which must be willfully stopped. If we love Cyprus, it is Cyprus that comes first, it does not belong to "us" (read: "Greek"/"Turk"), we belong to it.

Tuesday, August 13, 2013

Re: Deal Over Occupied Famagusta...???

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus40649-400.html#p766376

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it is hypocrisy, vp, to lead us on. i speak of a better Cyprus, because things must change, you speak of the past as though things are unchanging, more possible, you do not want to change, yourself.

...with all the benefits of Famagusta, for "your side", even without asking for anything back, it is extraordinary, unnatural if you will. with your resistance no one gains, and it is not the Cypriots Turkish or Greek who make this impossible, it is the failed policies of Turkey which are the bane. 

...need i remind you, this issue has nothing to do with Turkish Cypriots, it is a war crime where Turkey can demonstrate their recognition of a wrongdoing.

Sunday, August 11, 2013

Turkey - Preparing for Chaos

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus41005-30.html

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...the history i have read is still not clear to me, but at the advent, didn't Kemal turn to the Armenians in his dark hours, wasn't it this alliance, along with the Kurds, the impetus he needed to overcome his adversaries? it must have been, in the crisis, an idea that there was a prize bigger than a National identity, but Freedom, the Freedom of self-representation as Individuals, the founding of a State, where Universal Principals were the basis of the Liberty they establish. Turkey, and the meaning of the word Turk changed, although the betrayal in the Kemalists' (and Islamists') thinking came from greed, the denial of this fact, resisting this change with a strong sense of belonging, where in the affect it excludes "others". 

Turkey remains dysfunctional. there are many risks it faces as it is, that result in its break-up. it is a BBF, they need.

Saturday, August 10, 2013

Austerity not territory defines N Cyprus poll

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/08/201388103312303129.html

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...many issues are coming to a boil, what with elections coming soon, in Turkey, and in Cyprus. Labour on both sides of the divide, (the Union voice in Turkey is another issue) in what is called, the Problem, have the Economic issue as a force through which they can combine their efforts, because their Unity is based on Universal Principals. Since a Greek Constituency exists, and a Turkish Constituency, should they found a Federation, workers will gain an identity as Individuals, because they are prepared to defend there Identities as Persons. It is a not so hard spark to imagine, money, since everyone cares what's in their pockets; a Cypriot Flag flown higher.

Tuesday, July 23, 2013

Re: TDP will get my vote in elections!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus40918.html#p763938

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boycott in my mind is a big mistake. better to go to the poll and destroy the ballot. far more expression in that, a percentage of voters; otherwise, the boycotters if i can make up a word, are measured within a population who don't care in voting...

...if it were possible, this is the point i'd make to all Free thinking People, people can vote to defend Democracy, this choice in voting (a big "X" on all the candidates) also speaks words.

frankly bill, i don't know why this strategy is not used as a tactic, it is a powerful weapon against a dictatorship, which relies on Ballots secretly cast.

Friday, July 19, 2013

Latest update on oil disaster in North Cyprus

http://www.eturbonews.com/36268/latest-update-oil-disaster-north-cyprus

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...it is a shame that Turkey cannot show good neighbourly relations, or that the regime in the north cannot do more than follow orders. This opportunity to demonstrate that Cyprus comes first, was lost. What with oil being such a preoccupation of the Turkish Government, one would think that they would want to demonstrate their Leadership skills in this domain. What with the economy so frail in all these countries, it would have been a good way of moving the International community to take heart, that despite the politics, they can have confidence that some priorities rise above. Cyprus should not be divided, this is a good example why it is unnatural, such harm has evolved to be a disastrous state of affairs. Turkey, (read: Erdogan), cannot blame the Republic of Cyprus for this mess, (in his mind it must absolutely not exist) although I expect shortly a statement from his Cabinet, that they are blameless,

Tuesday, July 16, 2013

Re: interesting documentary

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus40815-50.html#p763089

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...indeed, i remember Solomou, and what worried me was the total lack of discipline. it is entirely possible that what is the TA in Cyprus is a sham, compared at least to troops well trained for fighting. when Lordo goes off with his horror stories, it in essence makes the same point, only the frame of mind interprets the meaning differently. we can all be angry at the "Greeks" and the "Turks" among us, none of them are blameless, but it is an irrational extension of thought to imagine that all Greeks, and all Turks, are these extremist.

...what are the Cypriots, if they continue to remain silent, they are accessories to those who continue in their denial of a Human Race toward "winning" as Persons. ("this must stop"). there is a big difference between our Identities, as Individuals that is the Freedom we accept as Universal Principals, and Liberty. in Cyprus we have agreed to demonstrate to the rest of the world, a manner of living where there is a State, one country, with a Government which defends the Rights of all its Citizens without any distinction or discrimination as equals, and where equally, Cypriot Constituencies can, through their electorate, effect their own distinct Identities; three governing bodies (at least); (two levels of Government) this is Bi-communal. 

...thus, i ask, where is the Greek Constituency? i ask, and what about the Maronites, Latins, and Armenians, do they not have an equal need to sustain themselves?

Sunday, May 12, 2013

Re: ...a bridge to Lebanon

Re: ...a bridge to Lebanon

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Iliaktida, welcome.

...the worst person i ever met in my life was a Cypriot pimp in London, i was so ashamed of him that i chased him out of Piccadilly Square. i like to think, that in the extremes, i'd find at least as many who are the best people to meet, and by my own experience this too is true.

we are lucky to have such diversity as Individuals, and just as important the diversity we have as Cultures (Lebanon and Cyprus) in our Persons. the bridge will, if it has a benefit in terms of its cost, improve social-exchange no doubt.

...Turkey regardless will want a Tribute, she is always busy meddling in all her neighbours' affairs.

regional cooperation will become paramount in the future because of the sea, and our need to protect it from ruin in our efforts to exploit its resources. indeed, for Cyprus to survive it must become the facilitator of these efforts.

Thursday, May 02, 2013

Cyprus :: 18 Million Crossings...!!! - Page 16

Cyprus :: 18 Million Crossings...!!! - Page 16

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...i am still unsure, after-all he was born (by his/her own terms) English, how vp can speak of a Heritance of 400 yrs.

...as i have said, what do i know, i come from a "mixed" village.

...i think claret, it can be best described this way, when a Greek says, "we", he is usually including Humanity, not unlike a Turk. but when a "Turk" says we, it should be taken to mean Turkey's deep state, not unlike a "Greek".

Thursday, April 18, 2013

Plan for new Cyprus vote casts uncertainty on bailout

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...i would vote yes, because it is possible to withdraw later. we need to demonstrate with Europe solidarity. even the economy is small pickings, compared to the war Cypriots must win, for Freedom (and Liberty) in general and, for themselves. it was not that long ago that Angela Merkel stood with us against Turkey's designs; we cheered.

...a bitter pill we are swallowing, nothing comes for free, if we can demonstrate a cooler resolve that others hold in high esteem, it makes us stronger still. at this point it is too late to vote, "no". already naysayers in the EU, for whatever reason (read:motive) are linking the financial crisis to the Problem. it is inevitable, because the logic when twisted this way opens the Judgement of Cypriots as Persons, easy to dismiss the fact that they are Individuals, to be labelled "Greeks" and "Turks", and divided as such Cyprus for Cypriots no more.

...our Banks will return better than ever, one way or the other, i don't doubt that Cypriots will rise to the task most admirably, it would not be the first time. but, money is not the problem, the Problem is the problem.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/bailout/plan-new-cyprus-vote-casts-uncertainty-bailout/20130418

Monday, March 25, 2013

The Cyprus Deal: Real Stories - Businessweek

The Cyprus Deal: Real Stories - Businessweek

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It is a sad day for the European Union when their Bankers cannot see a bigger picture as Investors.

Cyprus is very special. Geographically it represent the cross-road for three continents, (except as a backwater under 350 years of Ottoman occupation) and it has done so for thousands of years. Taken in context, the 'confidence' issue is a sham because it was only under their own efforts, once Independence was established in 1960, that a network of asphalt roads island-wide was built, as well as a drinking water infrastructure. Never mind the coup in '74 which failed because the "Greeks" of Cyprus did not support it, and never mind the 'Peace Operation', so intricately entwined with it, which left 1/3 of the population homeless in less than two weeks, (the forgotten example of 'cleansing' before Bosnia), by the Turkish Army which occupies illegally more than 50% of its coastline, and its most productive land, still. Cypriots, are heroic in their efforts so far, and they have demonstrated their resolve to defend Universal Principals based on the Rule of Law, with ingenuity and resolve.
In such a weakened state, bullied only because "they" are small, will cooler heads prevail on the political front when Europe soon must face the real Cyprus Problem (and Turkey)? Like the banks (for a few Euros), will she allow the island to be torn in two because it is easy?
...solidarity, as Human Beings, that's what Europe won a Nobel Prize for.

With such a poor result on this issue, I feel more worried for the rest of us, not the Cypriots that so well somehow, have endured heavily their price for Freedom.

Monday, March 04, 2013

Cyprus :: Greece To Declare EEZ...??? - Page 6

Cyprus :: Greece To Declare EEZ...??? - Page 6: Re: Greece To Declare EEZ...???

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@ Oceanside; we may hope that this man will give the other Leadership in Europe the courage to look at the facets that make up the European face. he has not done much to remove the tarnish on Turkey that his Party has made, although such twisted speech gives rise to the questions, Zionist-Jew, Christian-European, Terrorist-Islam, Occidental-Oriental (remember him inviting Native Americans to visit Turkey; they are both from China: brothers), it is nothing more than news to feed an electorate that is ready to die proud, for internal consumption, this food for thought can go both ways. everyone is made up of the same flaws, it is why transference works so well when it comes to spreading guilt, and with it hatred.

beside the EEZ with Greece, there are the Syrians, the Kurds, Iraq, never mind the Armenians, the Greek Orthodox Church, and the Cypriots who demonstrate remarkable Patience and restraint. and no, i didn't forget Israel...

only a genius could run a country, like Turkey, with so many pots on the fire, with an economy no one dares to scrutinise, and a significant body of this population fanatical as he who support him. but with Europe it is another matter, the war is far more subtle, if he cannot make it "better", i think he intends to take it down.

...hope your right; in the sense that Turkey should continue to join with the west to beat at our perceptions so that they can become more refined, lovingly against the efforts made to deny that the west to be whole is Muslim, too. afterall, there is One God, isn't there?

@ my Gig, look at the map, Europe wins, Cyprus is the fulcrum, Greece against Turkey or Turkey against Greece, it is a lever. otherwise it is two big sticks that are equal. splitting Cyprus, for warring parties of course, is ideal leaving it impotent, war there, as though Cypriots do not exist. the gesture was Mankind's, that created Cyprus, it was born from new beginnings with the Modern Age, for Peace. i hope that we can remember the vision of the Men before these moments who sacrificed their lives for us to understand that war is not terrible, and hate is good, but against real enemies, not each other; Lest We Forget. at this point a new frontier is opening, (we are talking Gaz here but generally, the Information Age) and Turkey is very late, if Greece is quick enough (and Europe is willing).

Friday, February 22, 2013

Cyprus :: From 300 t0 3900 ............ - Page 3

Cyprus :: From 300 t0 3900 ............ - Page 3

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Cypriotism, is not dead as you say, that is your opinion speaking as a "Turk". i suggest, what is dead is Turkey's push to identify the Problem as one between Turks and Greeks (Turkey and Greece). with the creation of the EU, and the membership of Cyprus within it, forces are naturally evolving for these acts to be demonstrated with the creation of one Cyprus, finally Free and Sovereign, rather than a piece of real-estate torn in two.

...vp, i am fighting for survival, i never chose any of them, i always understood that these forms of expression have within them an Ignorance i must hate, (does that make me less "Greek", or more "Turkish"?), and i am old enough to remember Cyprus before Turkey chose to plunder what belongs to civil people. this is wrong, if you are Turkish, rather than within a deeper state of "Turkishness", because it is not Human. you fear "Greeks", (so do i) and you choose to be as a "Turk" against them. yet, you, in effect, choose to deny the world is changing around you hatefully, not even selectively, resisting changes to the dogma you follow, blindly. i choose Love to better myself.

it is not so simple, Cyprus, and Cypriots, exist.

...what is becoming clear to me is that the effort Turkey has placed in her external affairs for fifty years, culminated with the Annan Plan, and it failed. the notion of "Turks" and "Greeks" is over, Cyprus this time has a chance to express Cypriotness, a notion that Cyprus is equal to Turkey, and that in Turkey it could happen that they too would reform, so that Liberty is defined, as Free Countries, Bizonal and Bicommunal, for their Citizens without discrimination or distinction, and for their Identities as Persons as well.

Re: The "police" and Torture Regime of "TRNC"

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus39899-30.html#p745940

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...Lordo, did it cross your mind that Cypriots, the "Greeks" did not fight because they too, did not support the coup. that trust was betrayed by Turkey, with the actions which followed. if anything, imagine the possibility of double Enosis, had the coup been supported, and consider Cypriots completely ignored by these adversaries, given that the idea of tearing the island in two originally, was not Cypriot, but foreign.

...war is the answer, to feed a hatred. it is good, because through it there are powerful forces which can be realised. Lest We Forget. why not choose real enemies Lordo, have you learned? i am Greek, and i suppose if i was German i'd be just as proud, why speak for "Turks", if you are Cypriot, and Turkish, let them speak for themselves. act accordingly.

Thursday, February 14, 2013

Cyprus :: a private investigation...Cyprus Bailout.

Cyprus :: a private investigation...Cyprus Bailout.

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...i'll say that Cyprus will come out stronger for this, although it is a witch hunt. those Germans who are in such a rush to demean what seems like a puny economy to save a buck are mistaken, and should be well advised to consider the credibility they represent, when what comes around, goes around.

...it is the perfect opportunity for the EU to bone-up, by demonstrating solidarity. and should the investigation find some crime, which it would in any State, to treat the Criminal, if it is made public, without exploiting what shame it brings as guilt by association to the Rule of Law. without Grace, such action, at this point, when France or Italy falters, or Spain, will be too late. Europe will be the sham.

let's not forget that Cyprus has been a net contributor to Europe so far. it leads with great esteem, as a Maritime, Trading, and/or Financial partner, Internationally. never mind how socialised it is, or that strategically, it is the gateway Europeans have to two other Continents. it was nothing more than a backwater, for about 350 years, under Ottoman occupation. it fared better under British rule, but it was only in 1960 that these people finally provided for themselves for the first time as this island's dwellers, asphalt roads, and a drinking water system, which they did not have before.

imagine, a People thousands of years old existing under subjugation, and suddenly Free; the Cypriots, i think have demonstrated Heroic efforts toward improving themselves since then, and with a Tolerance exemplary given that 1/3 of its population can be defined as displaced, since 1974, and for the first time torn in two, as History states by an, Illegal, occupation where only Turkey refuses to recognise simple Universal Principals, and thus, where Cypriots are not defined as those who Love Cyprus, but, as in some Proxy War: as "Greeks", and "Turks".

Europe cannot ignore the huge potential that Cyprus represents. it's relations with many other neighbours is hopeful, what with the anticipated wealth that can be found within the management together, of their natural resources.

...just because things can go "boom", should we be playing with them; maybe private is good if it is kept private: already there are many fires.

Monday, February 04, 2013

Cyprus :: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...??? - Page 5

Cyprus :: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...??? - Page 5

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...you are mistaken, vp. we are all looking forward to a Turkey which is positive, and an International leader, because it is so powerful. when it comes to the betterment of the Human condition, here is another opportunity. we regret, that in the past Turkey's efforts only caused the stagnation to continue, and in a manner where fear does not cease, neither the efforts put to hatred. as "Turkishness" goes, without Charity and Grace there is no profit, their fellow Men have only their own Hope for guidance, this leadership tarnishes themselves. ...perhaps a little effort on your part, Lordo, would be useful, can your engineer friend provide us with facts, where we (the readership) can decide for ourselves? question becomes, are you Cypriot? do you love this island? what is best (not just for "Turks")?

...allow me to be wrong, but i still think blimps are a better idea, as something new, pipelines we (Mankind) have, heavy lifting by air (over long distances and at sea) is limited.

Thursday, January 17, 2013

Re: What is needed for recognition?



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...boulio, wouldn't it be nice if the Cypriot Constituencies (Turkish and Greek) could dicker out their respective Territorial Jurisdictions if above their authority there is a Republic of Cyprus which represents all its Citizens as Sovereign, and as Individuals, like in any other State, as equals and without any distinction or discrimination? it is possible, and moreso better serves the needs and desires of this island's dwellers. Bicommunal is not a dirty word, and it does not mean tearing the island in two. you may want Cyprus divided (somehow), but do you want our Basic Rights, Your Individual Rights, reduced to a question of ethnicity, because as a Person you are "Greek" or "Turk"? i like to remember that above all we are members of a single "race" called Humanity, and i suspect that you do too.

Bicommunal requires three governing bodies, at least. and if there is a Republic, as well as a Turkish Constituency, there should exist a Greek Constituency. what you prove is that this willingness to discuss Jurisdictions exists. it is not so difficult, as we can see, without or outside the question of Statehood, if our Freedom is secured because we are united as Human Beings, to better that which we defend as Individuals, Universal Principals, and the Liberty we seek as Persons should not be confused as being one in the same.

vp wants the discussion to unfold as though only "Greeks" and "Turks" exist, as though Cyprus and Cypriots do not exist, if this is what you want, so be it, everyone is entitled to their opinion, if not you are seeking Liberty without Freedom.

Thursday, November 22, 2012

Cyprus :: new peace plan being reported on simerini - Page 2

Cyprus :: new peace plan being reported on simerini - Page 2

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...there has to be one State. Cyprus, its Heritance is too valuable to be dismissed. Cyprus has never been divided, it is an island after-all.

let us not forget that we will be dead soon enough and that what is natural is change. so let us imagine in two hundred years, or one hundred years or fifty, to be realistic. if you imagine a population of twelve million, i'll agree; do the math. do you imagine a population by demographics quite different, scary huh? embrace the future, you may resist, but you will fail thinking that time stops; and that things are perfect the way they are.

...Cyprus needs a perfect government if you will. it must serve its Citizens, without any discrimination or distinction, all are equals. it must be able to express and demonstrate the will of this People toward Universal Principals having the aim to better them. and yet this expression of an Identity is not enough because we are Individuals, but not only, as Persons we seek Self-Representation as well. Bicommunal is not new, and such a course in Cyprus serves a very complex ethnography, it is up to the Greeks, indeed, they are an overwhelming majority, to decide what course Cyprus shall take, and representing themselves internally through a Constituency, does not prevent them, as Cypriots, their voice within a greater whole.

the debate is flawed, it serves the interests of the Nationalists amongst us who would foresake anything else, other than their own Community interests. this vision is better served within their respective Communities, if in the infrastructure they provide, it accomodates accordingly the minorities living amongst them. The State, on the other hand, should neither be Greek or Turkish, it is Cypriot.

you want peace...

...where is the Greek Constituency?

Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Re: the new Greece (the new Europe)

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus39095-30.html#p734015

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kurupetos wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...another example where the Values of Europeans (read (if you like): the Values of "that" Greece which spawned them) need a definition based on their commitment to Universal Values. Maybe, the Greeks of today, wily as they are in distress will choose the way, once again. one hopes, from this corruption which rots no more grow new seeds, in the good earth below; this connection to Language may click, Greeks may become as they were that long time ago, facilitators of social-exchange, Greeks may choose to become transparent to many other Languages, without barriers, extrovert, to serve these Global partners, as Greeks to demonstrate their value and to demonstrate the power Greeks have toward communication; in the lingua franca, wake up reh, Greek is near extinction, it has to be useful to "others" to survive, others have to love Greece/"Greece" too.

RW your last paragraph is interesting although incorrect, because Greeks were never 'facilitators of social-exchange'. :roll: Have you never heard of 'Non-Greeks are barbarians'? :wink:

Who are the 'Global partners'? :? ...and why do you believe 'Greek is near extinction'? :?


...like English today, "then", Greek was the language to learn if one was to trade; indeed, in this respect, those who were ignorant of "Greek" custom were Barbarians.

90% of the world's population is not English (as a mother-tongue), and yet 90% speak it. the great powers of the Information Age will be measured by the bits and bytes they can produce. i propose that some well situated Countries (or People) can take a word (in English, e.g.), and translate it many times over; do you see my point?

...the world's ethnosphere is shrinking at a faster rate than it's ecosphere; the threats of extinction for many many languages is imminent, Greek is no exception, unless as a Language, it is or will be used by "others". my proposal suggests that the function of language can be Modernised, although it requires a shift in thinking where there is a willingness to facilitate inclusiveness with learning a language, and where a Nation (read: State) engages to demonstrate this ability, globally.

Saturday, September 29, 2012

Turkish Cypriot leader: We will drill offshore | WSLS 10

Turkish Cypriot leader: We will drill offshore | WSLS 10
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...260,000 Muslim Turkish Cypriots live in the north?

hardly. by their own "census" it is far less, and needless to say citing a bigger figure includes the illegal settlers from Turkey, and the Army, in her design of making Cypriots, whether Greek or Turkish, subject to their terms.

@ Mr. Eroglu, why not stand-up for the Federal Republic as a Cypriot, ask, where is the Greek Constituency if there is a Republic and a Turkish Constituency? is Cyprus a Greek State, because the vast majority of its History and Population are Greek? or, is there a Cypriot State, because not as Persons, but as Individuals its Citizens stand united toward defending Universal Principals?

Territorial Jurisdictions could be settled as an internal matter; Bicommunal means an indivisible whole having parts (at least three governing bodies, if not one), it cannot mean simply dividing the island in two. Bizonal, as a geographic context is the same.

Sunday, September 23, 2012

Cyprus :: Peace in Cyprus. - Page 10

Cyprus :: Peace in Cyprus. - Page 10

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vp, i still don't think you understand (in my Cyprus) how you will vote, typically how anyone votes.

as a voter, you will vote for your five representatives: Greek, Turkish, Armenian, Maronite, and an Independant for the Lower House.

how the Federal structure will work can be defined by what is an Individual Right, and what are Personal Liberties, the domain of the Constituencies.

for example, the Federal Government enacts Legislation that is an Educational Standard for all Citizens, the Constituencies would apply this Law in a manner which serves its Electors and their Educational System.

another, each Constituency would have a Civil Structure of Equal Power, but quite different: Police, Health, Social, Land, etc. while, the Federal Government has these responsibilities, to defend as Universal Principals, as well as Criminal Law, Legal Registries, and matters of State.

...can you see how your vote at the Federal level and the Constituent level are powerful tools?

...have you figured out why i harp about a population of 11 million?

...by identifying the "Greeks" and the "Turks" amongst us as each set's issue, (and where Hate when it is Identified, is a Crime against us all,) by standing united because we are more than just "Greeks" and "Turks", as Cypriots, we are Individuals and Human Beings, we can live as Greeks, and as Turks; do you see that?

Sunday, September 16, 2012

Cyprus :: Peace in Cyprus. - Page 7

Cyprus :: Peace in Cyprus. - Page 7
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"...the plot"

indeed a story concocted in Turkey.

...just the facts, take a look around you.

what Cypriots built from one third of the population homeless is really quite astounding, don't you think?
...even though they are the "Greeks".

what have the "Turks" done in the mean time? how is it, despite the embargo, that such a tiny population have become parasites, according to their founder/benefactor, a State many many many times bigger, and willfully defending "Turkishness" against what is not "Turkish" enough?
...what is it that the north's population is not doing, are they not "Turkish" enough, what can they do?

at some point, you too vp, will say asiktir to "them", or die. question is, do you love Cyprus, this land, more than being Turkish?

as for Greeks as a majority, it is irrelevant, it is the minorities which hold the sway in a Democracy. what is more important is an end to the corruption, when we, united as a population are not so easily subjected to this myth, "Turks" are helpless in a Cyprus whose majority are fanatics and "Greek".

Wednesday, September 05, 2012

Cyprus :: Asil Nadir found guilty. - Page 6



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Cyprus :: Asil Nadir found guilty. - Page 6

...the Ambassador forgets the beginning, with its black operations where Turkish Cypriots were sacrificed for Turkey's gain. the enclaves which followed, and the forced movements are not so clear, based on the same motives; lovely how the line follows so closely, the Acheson Plan.

...the same can be said for his opinion of "the Truth", Cyprus is Occupied, it offends all Cypriots equally, what is right and what is wanted are two different things in this matter; i applaud The Guardian, more of the Press should end their lazy way of talking, "Greek Cyprus", or "Northern Cyprus", because it is offensive to all Mankind, untrue and an insult, not just to this island's dwellers.

...and ridiculous as it is to say it, Turkey, that deep state and its wanttobe's, is to blame, even for this man, Asil Nadir.

Monday, September 03, 2012

The DOCUMENTARY "MEMORIES"

...in the purest sense Piratis your argument is sound.

in the sense that Bicommunal has no clear meaning, a "Turkish" idea or not, our responsibility is to the rest of Mankind, as Individuals, to demonstrate something we design for ourselves, as Cypriots, which enriches the world because it can be held in high esteem and emulated. futuristically, i am proposing to go beyond what is the Truth, and what vp resists so fondly, something where Cyprus in two hundred years sustains itself, perhaps in a desert of global warming with a population quite different in demographics and size. i repeat myself, there is a Cypriot Republic, and there is a Turkish Constituency, where is the Greek Constituency? (and why not Armenian, Maronite, and Latin Constituencies as well.)

where vp ignores a Federal Government, i say, where is the Greek state? consider that, my suggestion, because it solves both vp and your anxieties.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus38719-70.html#p728913

Thursday, August 09, 2012

Cyprus :: PETROS SOUPPOURIS, THE MAN!

Cyprus :: PETROS SOUPPOURIS, THE MAN!

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halil, can you say, i love Cyprus?




...can you say, i love Cyprus first?



this is the man Mr. Petros, and his friend who still stand together, to say just this.



...can you say, i want a Cypriot State?



this is the battle, unless of course you are a "Turk" or a "Greek".



...and if you are truly, a Cypriot, and willing to take a big step for Mankind, ask yourself, if there is a Republic, and a Turkish Constituency, where is the Greek Constituency (where are a Maronite, etc. Constituencies?); why not National Assemblies, as well as a Federal Government?



and you, vp, have you the courage to be as strong?



...i ask all of you to reflect, lest we turn even this reality (on the ground) through our hateful denial into another farce.



say with me, i love Cyprus, a want a better way of life.

Saturday, August 04, 2012

Our view: Old-style hero worship has no relevance today - Cyprus Mail#comments

Our view: Old-style hero worship has no relevance today - Cyprus Mail#comments

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If Mr. Malas wants to support a Federal Solution, i ask, if there is a Republic, and a Turkish Constituency, where is the Greek Constituency?




Turkey may be the 800 pound guerilla in the room, but the fact remains, Justice in Cyprus is to be seen, and it is Cypriots which must display this toward each other. For the proxy war to end, Turks and Greeks can be equals, with National Assemblies for their self-representation, as Persons. But, in a Bicommunal State, as Individuals without distinction or discrimination, as Citizens, united, they would vote for a Federal Government, to defend and to better Universal Principals, as well.



...Mr. Malas, think 12.5 million, two hundred years from now, can anyone imagine the demographics of this island to remain unchanged even fifty years from now? what is best for this island's dwellers, if

like Makarios you fought for Free Will, not just Liberty? and like Makarios, if you lay the blame on Greece, the Greek elite who to this day corrupt themselves, why then the denial, unlike Makarios, that a Cypriot State is better?



...personally, if i could, i would fly the Cypriot Flag attached to my car's attenna, and drive right round the island, in tribute to the great man (and men/women), who chose Cyprus first. if i was a Politician, I would focus on one Cyprus, and the opportunities that existed if within a Territorial Jurisdiction Greek came first, like in a Turkish, Maronite, Armenian, etc. Constituency, equal for the same reason. if i was a Leader, i would seek closure for the displaced, all Cypriots, not just "Greeks", i would seek to have for them the pleasure of their Properties restored, and for some at least, the Right of Return as they left, as Communities. in my Cyprus, enclaves are not a dirty word, they would be scattered across the whole geography of the island, obliging National Assemblies like those Greek and Turkish to provide service to an electorate island-wide, securing Freedom of Movement, and Association because even if the Green Line remains unchanged it becomes a frontier amongst many, not a border; Bizonal because there is one Sovereignty, and within it an ability to sustain diversity geographically.



...Mr. Malas, like his contemporaries have no vision, if they cannot see the value of a Greek state, within a Cypriot State. they are Statesman, like Makarios if they can provide a way of life where we can define ourselves as Individuals while we sustain our Identities as Persons; they are, in my mind traitors to all Mankind if they resist the changes which take us beyond the 19th Century and passed the Modern Age.

Thursday, June 28, 2012

Re: Turkish atrocities in Cyprus

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus38183-120.html#p721515 . vp, i don't know where you lived before the issues of '63 and '74, but if my village is an example of a "mixed" village, the residents have a relationship which was nurtured, far older than that. frankly i am grateful to live across from a Turkish Cypriot unscarred until the Turkish Army chose to make the land they occupy (and all its living creatures) subject to them. we remain an example of the community which was there before this "Turkification", my friends still respect hard work and have a loving nature, close to their land and this history; our history. now, after all these years, having met many Greeks from across the world, i feel a sorrow and a shame to meet a "Greek" who cannot understand that this is possible in Cyprus, i hope that i might convince you that as a Cypriot, you may consider that not all Turks are "Turks" . 350 years, wot? just a backwater, only surviving, ignored as a possession. it was the Modern Age, the British, and the Rule of Law, which gave impetus to Mankind's recognition of Cypriots as a People amongst a Family of Man. whether there is a majority of persons Greeks or not, the World defines us, as all Citizens, the stewards of this island so old (and so wealthy) as one, recognised, Sovereign and as Individuals, represented by a State governing in a manner where all electors are equal without distinction or discrimination. Cypriots, their Leaders, chose to take the challenge of defining Bicommunal, and now Bizonal, for Humanity's greater good. you see two states. i tell you that you cannot dismiss the Federal Government as a body because you don't trust "Greeks", things cannot remain as they are today. to be equals as Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots (, as well as Maronites, etc.) there must exist a Greek Constituency (and other Cypriot Constituencies). if you want a Turkish Constituency demand this; liberate the Republic from its bonds to the "Greeks", and once again it will be the "minority" who values civil behaviour and Universal Principals, most. ...as such, read your Constitution, the Republic of Cyprus' i mean, and tell me, what is wrong with National Assemblies?

Sunday, June 17, 2012

Cyprus :: Diamond Jubilee and Evagoras Pallikarides - Page 7

Cyprus :: Diamond Jubilee and Evagoras Pallikarides - Page 7

He died for the right and freedom to choose his identity instead of having Imperialist racists like you deciding for him, and us!


...given the time and the place his actions are as described. there is nothing of a disgrace in what he said, but time and History took other turns which should leave us grateful to Mankind, that for the first time in thousands of years, as a People Cypriots are Free. Respect is the watchword, and it is not as "Greeks" or "Turks" that any Peace will be found, to be at the vanguard of this new Age we must demonstrate a wider and more reasoned view, something repeatable, something emulated because it is held in high esteem.

The greatest discovery of my generation is that a human being can alter his life by altering his attitudes of mind...
Williams James (1842-1910)

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Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Tell Turkey: End the Occupation of Cyprus Now

. . ...if you give up Turkey as your sole benefactor you gain the support of the rest of the world. Freedom for Cyprus is Mankind's gift, to the People with a Cypriot Identity, it is not the "Greeks" who are offering you this Liberty to be Turkic, but Greeks who as this island's dwellers represent the vast majority of this body Politic. it would be nice in the least as a Cypriot, if you recognised that the island is not Turkish nor Greek, although as Persons we strive to sustain these identities. ...what better Guarantee is there but to define Bizonal Bicommunal Federation in a manner where as Individuals, this body of People represent themselves United in defending Universal Principals (as Humans), and that being Bicommunal they represent themselves as electors in National Assemblies (within Jurisdictional Territories being Bizonal) so that as a Majority they can sustain within their daily lives this distinct identity, even closer to their taxdollars. you cannot prevent Greeks, just because they are Greeks from choosing to reside in Cyprus as Turcophones (a "Turk" would think that, (rather than a Turk)), nor can we prevent the mobility that the Modern Age has offered. Cyprus is not Property, beyond the feelings Turkey displays about the Treaty of Lausanne, or its Continental Shelf, it is about defining this distinction: that a People, Cypriots have as their Heritance a land far more rooted than what has been a proxy war between subjugators. ...question of ethnic origin, no; question of attitude. ...dude, you behave